4-11-10 Debriefing

Regards,
NOBODY

This weekend it was dirty playing once again and i think what happen was with everyone that its been the same crap for like two weekends in a row and today some people just hit there boiling point and just blew up on the fact of the problems that are going on we always say that we are going to talk about the situation before we start playing but we never get around to it and we really need to say something cause Im pretty sure one fist fight will start cause I see the strong words and the body language of players there towards other players so we need to get shit stright to avoid a problem

Yea cmon its just a game. and also it was crazy fun out there. The first time i got hit i was like lost in super tall grass and vines. Felt like i was in brasil. I always splited into fire teams with my cousin randy and his dad. Anyways who was that guy that came over to us and just said lets play doing a tactical mission. It was actually really fun. Hope he comes again. But different scenario though.

today there were alot of problems and were left unsolved but other than that it was an awesome day,at the start every thing was wet but after it all dried up so like i said it was an awesome day.

Harold, Its cool man., I had alot worse. having some kid call me pussy after he got lit up for christmas. I was never out and I was over 30 ft from him. he should have payed attention where I was. But just to give youa heads up. next time you plan on dropping you weapon and charging someone, be ready to follow through. Someone else might not be as forgiving. What kept me from crossing that trench was my son. So next time watch your mouth what you say and when you get hot, Just say out or hit, Not start screaming at the one who shot you. maybe if you would have called hit the first couple of shots, ther wouldn't have been an additional 30 shots sent your way.



IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET SHOT IN EXCESS< CALL YOUR HIT THE FIRST TIME OR YOU WILL GET SCARED

I agree with you Seabee, on the not calling your hits and lighting em up until they do. As for the charging part I have zero tolerance for situations like that. Guys I know we get angry at times and that's one of the reasons I left today because I was mad so when your angry just leave and come back when you cool off. We don't want people fighting on the field, verbally using foul language and especially not charging or getting to the point of a fist fight.

Lets respect each other on the field and if you can't control your anger and if it gets to the point that you want to fist fight I don't think that person would be welcomed by anyone at S.F.A.R. if it were to occur.

The majority of players are grown ups and we are not there to fist fight, unless you are struck and of course anyone has the right to defend themselves. We also have children on the field and we are not setting a good example for them. I don't want the children to be afraid of some violent person on the field so please lets all try our best to refrain from cursing when irate at an individual.

Regards,
NOBODY

I can be Good,Bad & Ugly

I don't know what happened out there after Nobody and myself left but belive me next weekend we will have a talk on the field before we start playing cause this is not what we had invisioned. Things are starting to get a little out of control and we need to get things straight! I don't care how mad you get at someone out there you should never intentionally walk up to someone and shoot them just cause they didn't call thier hit; uncalled for. PEOPLE PLEASE CONTROL YOURSELVES!!!


Ebola

Lets not just say that we are going to have that talk like always lets really have that talk this weekend and with everyone even if it need to be repeated to the PEOPLE that get there late

yea ! also teams are not being split up fairly which was also something that had been spoken about and never happen it alwasy seems like the guys with the fire guns are all on the same team and the little one never divided and im sorry i love them but thats bull crap you wanna shit to get better play fair a bunch of people who go to events and have well tuned guns against a bunch of noobs,children and guys who are still learning the sport is wrong im a pretty reasonable guy outside of that one time i blew up which i said i was sorry for but you want stuff to get better do something and dont repeat the same crap over again also whats with the only field games i mean i know you guys crush us every time so you have to hold onto that but play some damn cqb we would stay all damn day in the field if you had your way w.e man and for the record maybe if every one had less military fake crap on you would feel your getting shot and freaking call it that way we dont have great players like nobody leaving the field over stupid bull-crap cheating. theres no reason to stop shooting a person who wont call out its the one way to prevent cheating and maybe give a fucking lesson on how to play right .

Zulu wrote:

yea ! also teams are not being split up fairly which was also something that had been spoken about and never happen it alwasy seems like the guys with the fire guns are all on the same team and the little one never divided and im sorry i love them but thats bull crap you wanna shit to get better play fair a bunch of people who go to events and have well tuned guns against a bunch of noobs,children and guys who are still learning the sport is wrong im a pretty reasonable guy outside of that one time i blew up which i said i was sorry for but you want stuff to get better do something and dont repeat the same crap over again also whats with the only field games i mean i know you guys crush us every time so you have to hold onto that but play some damn cqb we would stay all damn day in the field if you had your way w.e man and for the record maybe if every one had less military fake crap on you would feel your getting shot and freaking call it that way we dont have great players like nobody leaving the field over stupid bull-crap cheating. theres no reason to stop shooting a person who wont call out its the one way to prevent cheating and maybe give a fucking lesson on how to play right .

You're right. Teams aren't always split evenly. That's because my team is used to playing together. However yesterday (sunday) we split our team in two. Half and half to makes things a bit differently. Noob? you call yourself a noob? Well, we've been playing since December of 2009, so my friend, I join your bunch as being a so called "noob". The only difference is I take this game quite seriously and my buddies and I practice as much as we can and discuss tactics very often. This is a hobby for us, a passion. We like it, we enjoy it and look forward to playing it every weekend. We're simple guys just like anyone out there. None of us were specially trained, we're not a group of special forces freshly off the plane from Iraq or anything like that. We simply comunicate well together, and like paying together. We do recognize the fact that sometimes we rape you guys in the field, and for that we have started splitting up our team to make things even. CQB? yeh sure we'll play CQB if you want. None of us complain when getting hit in the face, or head, or arms at 380+ fps. YOU GUYS DO, so take that into consideration when you decide to play CQB.

If you need a lesson on how to play airsoft. Go online and read a bit. Watch some youtube videos. Gather some of your airsoft buddies and discuss tactics or something. We'll still come out on sunday and divide the team to make things "even". AND, we will still play games where our whole team will play together too, because thats what we go and do, have fun together.

As for your ridiculous comment about military clothes and equipment. I'll just let you know I read it, and have no comments.

im not addressing you sir seeing as how i have no idea who you are ? and noobs as in people just getting into the sport itself i at no point called myself a noob, i am aware who started play at what time sir, i have been there sense the second day of playing at this field, also yes your correct the comment on gear was dumb but it was just for kicks seeing as how that is one of the reasons people dont call out because they dont feel it, and even as in teams get split for real idk what your talking about teams getting split i see alll the guys who come together staying together all day and hey your right its fine to do that i completely agree however im more then sure that everyone on ebolas side is all one group of team-mates other then when you step on that field and pick a side and that is not fair we could use tactic and good team work but we get stuck with fresh players with little to no gear such as walkys to communicate which as im aware is vital to working as one on the battle field look i can talk about this all day and have this argument in person but what im trying to say is the teams are being spilt by those who play well together already and those who need to learn how can we learn other then by example the teams need to be split so that each side has even experience of play which is not whats happening .

also on a side note I use 400fps I dont complain when shot and I always call im out when hit I dont speak for my whole team I am just ME so dont generalize ME also IM not the person yesterday who was on YOUR team that didnt call out when hit in the back several times and when finally fired upon in a manner i guess was not to his liking exploded on one of MY team mates and seemed to be ready to fight him

Have a nice day sir
whoever you are .

Zamm3k wrote:

We do recognize the fact that sometimes we rape you guys in the field, and for that we have started splitting up our team to make things even. CQB? yeh sure we'll play CQB if you want. None of us complain when getting hit in the face, or head, or arms at 380+ fps. YOU GUYS DO, so take that into consideration when you decide to play CQB.

This guys is really funny. What boat did he fall off. Last I recall I have never complained about being shot in CQB, even when my son got shot from up close in the fore head and he was left bleeding. I do recall someone this weekend in a field match got lite up like a light bulb from over 30 ft. and screamed for mercy while charging like a bull then later to back off like a chihuahua. Also guys getting hit in the back but just because they were running, they decided to fall into the bushes and not call his hit.

Bottom line is that I am there to play with my boys. They dont back off from know one and neither will I. So if you think you are a better man by trying to get on the team with better guns, More power to you. At the end of the day weather I shot 300 fps or I shot 450 fps I enjoyed the day spending some quality time with my sons watching them do something they like


When ever you wanna play CQB, let me know I promise that I wont be complaining. Also remember just cause you get shot by a kid, It does not mean that the hit didnt count and you stay in.

remember that air soft is a game of honor. And I know that there is more than half of guys out there that if you dont light them up. They wont call their hits. I teach my kids to be fair and I dont need to mention names, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE every week is the same group of guys that get the same complaints from others " man I hit them and he does not call it"



NEXT WEEK IS A DIFFERENT DAY

Bro why do you keep looking for problems and running your mouth? I didn't fight you for the simple reason that your sons don t deserve to see that from their father. You are playing a friendly game and you were the one that was wrong. You did not hit me once, as a matter of fact you were shooting at my team mate on my left not even at me because I was laying completely on the ground. You are a grown as man to be acting so ridiculous. I rushed you because you deserved it, next time you shoot me up like that for no reason we can take it to the back and well solve our own problems. I am not scared of you just like you aren't of me, we can solve this if you want, no problem. I did not violate any rules. You were hit, walked out of the game said "fuck this" walked back in and shot the wrong guy. Accept your fault, I swear on my life you didnt hit me. Ask any of the other guys that have hit me that I always call it out. You simply didn't hit me.

keep your fact straight, I was never hit. thats why I stayed in. If I was hit I would have stepped out like I do. I started to walk back then said "fuck it, I am staying.I ran up to shot the one that I originally hit in the bushes, and there you were standing straight, and yes I shot you, you didnt say hit but you did scream other words. In the previous match YOu were hit then we told you that you were out of bounds. Then you said after they hit that you were told to move cause you were out of bounds. I shot you from more than 30ft. You were the one that started screaming, not me, And next time you decide to drop your weapon and rush someone. hope that they are as patient as me

Dude please, stop trying to scare me with your "patient as me" comments, you didnt scare me in person you wont do it in a forum.

Look how twisted your facts are that on the previous game the kids didnt hit me, I ran and threw myself behind a bush without getting hit and some guys who saw me out of bounds told me, I raised my hand got out of the bushes and walked back in bounds to my previous location. I didnt raise my hand because I got hit I did it because I was out of bounds and i wanted to get back in without getting hit for no reason. Those little kids were doing a hell of a job keeping me at bay but they didnt hit me when I was running.

And you didnt stay in, you spent 10 minutes bitching and moaning because you kept shooting into the bushes we were in, without hitting a soul and walked out of the game because you were mad, I saw you ((((walking out of the game)))) and I stood up to try and get the other guys on your left and then I hear you say "fuck it" and next thing I know I see a bunch of BBs flying straight at my face for no reason whatsoever. You were not more than 30 ft and I did start screaming because I don't see why a bitter old man has to light me up when he hasnt hit me once before. Your issue wasn't even with me to begin with, you just got pissed off and took it out on the next guy you saw. I shouldn't be on trial here when you are the one who lost control, I was simple defending myself from an attack you started.

I honestly don't want to fight anyone, I want to keep playing my game without any problems but you've spent two days running your mouth trying to make me look like a bitch and a cheater on the forum. There are kids on that field that shouldn't be exposed to two grown ups fighting over a game, youre a father, you should know it better than me. I probably shouldn't have rushed you like that but I had the power to stop myself and not make it any worse. Don't take this as a sign of weakness, I guarantee you I will fight you if you keep pushing this, just let it go dude. You didnt have a reason to light me like that, and I shouldn't have rushed you. I respect your kids and the field.

Don't disrespect me anymore. I will avoid a fight upt to a point so I am publicly asking you, dont push me, I am not scared.

batista wrote:

Dude please, stop trying to scare me with your "patient as me" comments, you didnt scare me in person you wont do it in a forum.

Look how twisted your facts are that on the previous game the kids didnt hit me, I ran and threw myself behind a bush without getting hit and some guys who saw me out of bounds told me, I raised my hand got out of the bushes and walked back in bounds to my previous location. I didnt raise my hand because I got hit I did it because I was out of bounds and i wanted to get back in without getting hit for no reason. Those little kids were doing a hell of a job keeping me at bay but they didnt hit me when I was running.

And you didnt stay in, you spent 10 minutes bitching and moaning because you kept shooting into the bushes we were in, without hitting a soul and walked out of the game because you were mad, I saw you ((((walking out of the game)))) and I stood up to try and get the other guys on your left and then I hear you say "fuck it" and next thing I know I see a bunch of BBs flying straight at my face for no reason whatsoever. You were not more than 30 ft and I did start screaming because I don't see why a bitter old man has to light me up when he hasnt hit me once before. Your issue wasn't even with me to begin with, you just got pissed off and took it out on the next guy you saw. I shouldn't be on trial here when you are the one who lost control, I was simple defending myself from an attack you started.

I honestly don't want to fight anyone, I want to keep playing my game without any problems but you've spent two days running your mouth trying to make me look like a bitch and a cheater on the forum. There are kids on that field that shouldn't be exposed to two grown ups fighting over a game, youre a father, you should know it better than me. I probably shouldn't have rushed you like that but I had the power to stop myself and not make it any worse. Don't take this as a sign of weakness, I guarantee you I will fight you if you keep pushing this, just let it go dude. You didnt have a reason to light me like that, and I shouldn't have rushed you. I respect your kids and the field.

Don't disrespect me anymore. I will avoid a fight upt to a point so I am publicly asking you, dont push me, I am not scared.

Batista, We are all going to have a talk this Sunday. I look forward to seeing everyone there so we can all put closure to this and discuss the rules as adults. No one is going to kick no ones ass nor will there be and insults. Nothing like being in a place where there is tension, I sure as hell would not be confortable. that's why we are going to resolve this once and for all like grown adults. I myself get mad sometimes but when I come to my senses I look back and I know that the people I play with are my friends and I would expect everyone to treat each other the same way.

I will locking this topic due to the fact it is not going anywhere and thie issue will be resolved this Sunday. I know you are new and don't want you to think that anyone hates you nor do I want you to stop coming out to play due to this incident, I like you and expect you to continue coming.

So Batista and SEABEE we will be talking to both of you on Sunday and until then I need both of you to chill, It's only natural that us men behave this way it's an ego thing But at the end we always make up and be friends, which I am 100% that's what's going to happen. Till then be safe amigos!

Regards,
NOBODY