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PostSubject: aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle   aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle Icon_minitimeWed May 30, 2012 9:38 pm

so i was wondering...what is your opinion on this gun?

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7323

its seems pretty good...just want to here everyones feedback thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle   aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle Icon_minitimeWed May 30, 2012 11:28 pm

well I don't really like electric blowback.. Sad lol

but i'm gonna do some research and I would advise you to do the same! why? because some gun companies like AGM and Javelin have proprietary parts, (means you can't buy aftermarket parts) for the internals. look and see if the gearbox is a tokyo marui standard version 2 clone.
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PostSubject: Re: aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle   aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle Icon_minitimeThu May 31, 2012 1:52 am

agm and javelin dont use proprietary parts.....where are you getting this info???
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PostSubject: Re: aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle   aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle Icon_minitimeThu May 31, 2012 9:31 am

javelin has an anti reversal latch that only fits in Javelins,
my agm L96 was proprietary because there were only like 1 or 2 aftermarket internal parts. i think a spring and MAYBE a spring guide?
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PostSubject: Re: aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle   aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle Icon_minitimeThu May 31, 2012 10:40 am

agm SNIPER rifles are proprietary. The aegs are not. since when did they have proprietary anti reversal latches? seriously where is that info coming from?
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look it up dude, i wouldn't make that up.
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PostSubject: Re: aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle   aps full metal m4-a1 electric blowback rifle Icon_minitimeThu May 31, 2012 11:07 am

Proprietary parts
Unfortunately, there's many proprietary parts in there as : nozzle,cylinder head, tappet plate, selector plate, hop-up, the mechbox shell itself and the latch. For example, if you want to change the cylinder head for a metal one, you'll need to also change the nozzle (non-compatible with aftermarket cylinder head) and the hop-up (made to fit the special nozzle). However, they appears to be well made. It will be easier to change the complete mechbox to an aftermarket if something break ( I haven't tried if other brands of mechbox will fit in the metal body.)

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back to the OP: i'll look into APS for you
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Second thing to mention, is the fact that I do not consider APS a good brand. If it is the same one that is reviewed all around the net, then I would stay clear of it, and avoid it like the plague. The APS M4 I know has a proprietary gearbox (so if you break any part you have to get a full box) and a lot of other proprietary parts that are not after-market compatible or durable.

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here's a more positive POV:

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Proprietary parts
Unfortunately, there's many proprietary parts in there as : nozzle,cylinder head, tappet plate, selector plate, hop-up, the mechbox shell itself and the latch. For example, if you want to change the cylinder head for a metal one, you'll need to also change the nozzle (non-compatible with aftermarket cylinder head) and the hop-up (made to fit the special nozzle). However, they appears to be well made. It will be easier to change the complete mechbox to an aftermarket if something break ( I haven't tried if other brands of mechbox will fit in the metal body.)

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The only thing on the javelin that is different from any other v.2 is the tappet plate everything else is the same.
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do you know anything about the gun that panzie posted about? i found good and negative comments about it, but i haven't had any personal experience with it
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i have looked around and found both good and bad reviews but i have seen that if the gearbox breaks they sell them for cheap.
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so i was wondering...what is your opinion on this gun?

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7323

its seems pretty good...just want to here everyones feedback thanks.
if your looking for a good EBB i have the G&G GR16 DST and it hasnt failed me yet, the blowback is LOUD with a bigger spring in it.
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_237&products_id=10438
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Pandemonium wrote:
Panziekiller wrote:
so i was wondering...what is your opinion on this gun?

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7323

its seems pretty good...just want to here everyones feedback thanks.
if your looking for a good EBB i have the G&G GR16 DST and it hasnt failed me yet, the blowback is LOUD with a bigger spring in it.
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_237&products_id=10438

it doesent say ebb on it
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Panziekiller wrote:
Pandemonium wrote:
Panziekiller wrote:
so i was wondering...what is your opinion on this gun?

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=7323

its seems pretty good...just want to here everyones feedback thanks.
if your looking for a good EBB i have the G&G GR16 DST and it hasnt failed me yet, the blowback is LOUD with a bigger spring in it.
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_237&products_id=10438

it doesent say ebb on it
i know there is an EBB version they just dont have one this is the non EBB but mine is an EBB
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