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foxhole needs WORK !!!

then let's put some fucking work into it

people are talking shit saying there is too much mosquitoes... well i get bit up more at pb field then i do at foxhole.

Having a field open for less than $15 a person is basically a waste of time for the owner. It may not be the best field to some people, but your expectations are why no one invests any money in opening a high end field.

Unless your in some areas that you can get 10 acre sections of land for less than $30K you should think of $15 as the minimum anyone would charge for entry to a airsoft field. No one is ever going to pay serious attention to anyone that thinks $15 is a expense that demands high quality.

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Actually repo is right sweetwater.No one is gonna be interested in making a better field if everyone wants to be cheap.People in cali are willing to pay good money to airsoft which is why there are so many fields.Cqb city is 30$ a day and they get high player attendance because the feild got to were they need to be so the 30$ is worth it.If we stop being cheap eventually we will get more feilds and the ones we have now will improve.

DEVIN wrote:

Actually repo is right sweetwater.No one is gonna be interested in making a better field if everyone wants to be cheap.People in cali are willing to pay good money to airsoft which is why there are so many fields.Cqb city is 30$ a day and they get high player attendance because the feild got to were they need to be so the 30$ is worth it.If we stop being cheap eventually we will get more feilds and the ones we have now will improve.

DEVIN IS RIGHT !!

that's in cali though... i honestly liked it better when we didn't have to pay to get in to a field.... i'm getting ready to quit airsoft cuz there are somepeople that used to play that can't afford 15 bucks a fucking week... i'm one of those people... devin let's just try to get foxhole back i'm tired of putting my money in there hands... if it was a good field i would but it's not even decent...

doesn't matter.... i'd rather play somewhere in a forest i don't care about improvements.. you want improvements that's your problem.. i want a place that i can play for no cost...

sweetwater wrote:

that's in cali though... i honestly liked it better when we didn't have to pay to get in to a field.... i'm getting ready to quit airsoft cuz there are somepeople that used to play that can't afford 15 bucks a fucking week... i'm one of those people... devin let's just try to get foxhole back i'm tired of putting my money in there hands... if it was a good field i would but it's not even decent...

Eactly its not good because they dont have money to improve it.There not making much profit with the cost of land and all which is why they raised the price,if u pay more eventually you will get more.

pb matrix field doesnt make the improvements of the field sanddragon builds everything basically

devin, i don't care about more shit... i can get all that on my own and rebuild the fucking foxhole... you can get all that shit at the dump or can it on the side of the road... i'm not paying extra money to improve shit... all the shit they are improving is just building shit with old shit... like they found it in the dump, you want my 15 bucks put the fucking boat in the field

devin and eagle, are you guys agreeing or not cuz i'm getting hit with bipolarness over here. make up your mind. i don't fucking care i'm not paying to get into a fucking shitty field that is under "construction" and we only get 3 games in cuz everybody gets there late and some people take their time...

So basically your whole argument is that someone trying to run a buisness should change something so someone who can't afford $15 dollars a week in their entertainment budget can be afford to go?

The part about the players not trying to get enough games in really wouldn't make me want to change anything if I owned the field either.

yo i wanna be able to play. that's the fucking arguement. i don't wanna worry about having to pay 15 bucks to play. nobody does.

The argument that someone should provide you a place to play for whatever you feel is what you can afford is pretty egocentric and makes you look pretty stupid.

EAGLE wrote:

foxhole needs WORK !!!

point taken and I say....

Players arriving late and taking too long miss out on getting more games as well as delaying others, You are all undisciplined when it comes to quick game turn-arounds and orderly military ordered games... Most of you all lack respect in being well drilled to do so and even more... rebel to authority when an effort is being made!... You are a leaderless rabble!

You guys are so undisciplined you need to be flogged!... If this was the Olde Royal Navy and you all had to team up and man an old Man O war cannon... It would probablly Blow up or the other gunners get more shots out than you!

You all dream of VICTORY but The Admiral will only see ya as a rabble and bloody pirates....REBLES AND FOOLS WHO FUCK THE RULES!

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Time to drill some sense back into ya all!

Ive been doing the most contributive work at Both FOX HOLE and PB field!... and Don't forget when I stayed late with Mirko building forts and Bunkers at HO CHI MIN TRAIL!

Actually I see little or actually no one getting up to team up with me on any bunker builds or hacking of trails!

I'm Tired of your N00bish bitchings, so now go hack those overgrown trails yourself as I am burned out!

PB Matrix has promise because the attendance will be guaranteed to be some what high and reliable.

Since its a legal venue you guys do not see that you can truely tinker and build on this field...It will not build itself!

Fox Hole is poorly attended most of the times and demands more players to make it great....Better to not be cheap and support the venues to gain more players before you host at FOX HOLE again.

Now I am hearing players trying to cut corners again to save a few bucks!
by doing so you stand to risk watering down the sport by sending half our airsoft reserves or more to reble fields that may soon become small airsoft games... I want Fucking WARS... keep our group attendance united and undivided so the best games can happen.

Once again I say you all try some bunker building and field construction work or stay and play there and in time you will see a field of dreams ,and if you build it , they will come!

Stay at the Venues, support them and watch them grow... think of this like its our Bloody Church!... looking forwards to Constructed Cathedrals!

I agree with sAnd dragon. Sweetwater, you are cool dude, but business is business, and there is a cost to running a business. If 15 bucks is too much get a part time job to fund your hobby. Sooner a later foxhole will be taken over by a business or the government and what?

Wolf

sweetwater wrote:

doesn't matter.... i'd rather play somewhere in a forest i don't care about improvements.. you want improvements that's your problem.. i want a place that i can play for no cost...

You will find yourself alone in the woods with maybe a few other n00bs like you but I doute the possibility that another Abandonded building field like Silo may rise from the ashes!

That era has long passed it is time to try pushing for legal venues and getting proffessional fields established.

... Think different?... No Offense but....

Maybe this is not the sport for you as you are cutting corners and you and your crew are playing it more watered down....this will also include those who defy playing true milisim scenarios... If you only like death-Match then you are still at a N00bish level to truely appreciate the whole aspect of the sport.... You might as well play Kiddy Lazer tag or Paintball!


You must think of playing airsoft at the venues like you are treating yourself to a Steak dinner...Oh and do tip if ya have any class!

You need to think of the airsoft venues as the Offical meeting place for airsoft players...

you cannot condem the venues on account of 15 dollars as you have not seen other venues that are better and charge more!... It will get better but it will take time!

You must see this stage of airsoft in Florida as like that of the pioneering equivelant of the wild west and the laying of the railroad tracks to get civilization there...Right now you need to rough it out!

You can do your part by rallying out more airsoft troops to attend both forum and venue, -You can even partake in bunker builds... -Just see who is volunteering , working the field will give you a sense accomplishment and team effort is also part of airsoft!

lol

Everyone knows Sanddragon js a Noob....its about as offensive as calling a Cat a Feline. Think of a better cutdown next time.

seriously... just gtfo. you guys don't agree then who cares.. that's your opinion... i don't care. this is my opinion and i'm sticking to it. so seriously leave it alone and if you wanna take pb matrix's side then you do that i really don't care... i'm just trying to get people to go to foxhole for a change. i'm not going to argue with people that spend their fucking life chairsofting.

sweetwater wrote:

seriously... just gtfo. you guys don't agree then who cares.. that's your opinion... i don't care. this is my opinion and i'm sticking to it. so seriously leave it alone and if you wanna take pb matrix's side then you do that i really don't care... i'm just trying to get people to go to foxhole for a change. i'm not going to argue with people that spend their fucking life chairsofting.

So what if some people think I am a N00b!... Consider the possibility that , where I'm coming from (California) you guys are even bigger N00bs!....In Cali, There are a lot of SandDragons and they all dress and play by the book!....Maybe I should show more pictures of players playing pro and doing milisim reEnactments!

Don't Judge me by what I dress... oh that guy is a Noob!

Respect!

I may not be the very best player but I sure do think a lot about the sport and maybe as a Chairsofter I may have some exceptional wisdom and witt about the subject...What I said was as valid fact like the rules as simular as of a game of Chess and Don't you Bitch and whine if It ends in a Checkmate!

I merely presented the Facts and other intell of the wisdom of directing airsoft players and other resourses away from primary developing fields...

Go play out in the woods and I really hope it works out... really!

Just saying that all levels of Organization and player attendace has gone to shit and that players, play like Savages and think like little kids, They Fail to see the big picture in the long run!

- Also Chairsofting when needed is enjoyable and necessary if it also happens to be rather useful and entertaining for all!