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PostSubject: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 7:28 pm

hey guys got a V2 gearbox (mp5) here that keeps locking up. it's got a large type battery connector, but an 8.4 large won't free it up.

my two guesses at the problem are:
a) battery is not strong enough
b) motor doesn't have enough torque

anything else?

the mp5 is g&g, shouldn't really have a strong spring.
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 7:31 pm

Rogue Echo 1 wrote:
hey guys got a V2 gearbox (mp5) here that keeps locking up. it's got a large type battery connector, but an 8.4 large won't free it up.

my two guesses at the problem are:
a) battery is not strong enough
b) motor doesn't have enough torque

anything else?

the mp5 is g&g, shouldn't really have a strong spring.
battery cells are damaged... or theres something clogging the gearbox. re grease/shim +a new battery
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 7:43 pm

i should note that i locked the gearbox up using a cheesy chinese SMALL battery. (large to small adapter.

thats why the gearbox locked up most likely.
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 7:43 pm

Pandemonium wrote:
Rogue Echo 1 wrote:
hey guys got a V2 gearbox (mp5) here that keeps locking up. it's got a large type battery connector, but an 8.4 large won't free it up.

my two guesses at the problem are:
a) battery is not strong enough
b) motor doesn't have enough torque

anything else?

the mp5 is g&g, shouldn't really have a strong spring.
battery cells are damaged... or theres something clogging the gearbox. re grease/shim +a new battery

dude G&G makes some good polymer haha.
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 9:18 pm

i had said if you get a batter with 1600 mah or more your gun wont lock up
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 9:20 pm

Panziekiller wrote:
i had said if you get a batter with 1600 mah or more your gun wont lock up

mAh don't matter, they only tell you how long the battery'll last
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 9:23 pm

yea but the mp5 he has is a blowback and it drains the power on the battery if you have anything lower that a 1600mah it drains it and locks up the gearbox
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 10:03 pm

Panziekiller wrote:
yea but the mp5 he has is a blowback and it drains the power on the battery if you have anything lower that a 1600mah it drains it and locks up the gearbox

oh wow didn't know that, thanks lol
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 10:07 pm

RecoN wrote:
Panziekiller wrote:
yea but the mp5 he has is a blowback and it drains the power on the battery if you have anything lower that a 1600mah it drains it and locks up the gearbox

oh wow didn't know that, thanks lol

no problem Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 10:59 pm

Rogue Echo 1 wrote:
Pandemonium wrote:
Rogue Echo 1 wrote:
hey guys got a V2 gearbox (mp5) here that keeps locking up. it's got a large type battery connector, but an 8.4 large won't free it up.

my two guesses at the problem are:
a) battery is not strong enough
b) motor doesn't have enough torque

anything else?

the mp5 is g&g, shouldn't really have a strong spring.
battery cells are damaged... or theres something clogging the gearbox. re grease/shim +a new battery

dude G&G makes some good polymer haha.
i know they do remember i own one? im saying that grease may have hardened in the gearbox and may lock it up it happened to me
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 11:01 pm

Panziekiller wrote:
yea but the mp5 he has is a blowback and it drains the power on the battery if you have anything lower that a 1600mah it drains it and locks up the gearbox
that actually isnt true. my GR16 is ebb and i ran an 8.4 NiMH for a long time before i went lipo... it never locked up the gearbox. all the ebb does is drain a little bit of pressure for the actual movement of the bolt, i doesnt use battery power.
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 11:14 pm

im not talking about the voltage im talking about the mah. if its not high enouph its not going to work
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeTue Jul 31, 2012 11:35 pm

Panziekiller wrote:
im not talking about the voltage im talking about the mah. if its not high enouph its not going to work
i know but having the g&g blowback doesnt mean it takes more battery power, because its pneumatic, its not like the tokyo marui recoil shocks. my 8.4 was a 1600 and yes it died after a while but it wasnt cause of my blowback..
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeWed Aug 01, 2012 9:50 am

well i dissasembled the gun (very easy btw, kudos G&G) and looked at the gearbox. its a standard v2 minus the screws at the top, uses the bar like a V3 would have.

anyway, the blowback doesnt really drain battery power. theres a hole in the cylinder, when the piston slams forward to propel the BB, some air is diverted in to the hole which cause the bolt to move back.

if anything, it might lower your fps slightly.
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeWed Aug 01, 2012 11:24 am

thats what makes it a pnematic blowback
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeWed Aug 01, 2012 1:52 pm

i havent had any luck yet. to further disassemble it i will need some REALLY tiny allen keys.
i grabbed my old JG blue motor which has ALOT more torque, that should be strong enough for the gun.
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PostSubject: Re: V2 gearbox locking up   V2 gearbox locking up Icon_minitimeFri Aug 03, 2012 10:29 am

the motor that comes with the g&g is sooooooooooo weak. i put it in my friends m4, pulling an m110 it's struggling..
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